October 17th 2012 07:39:00 PM
Nope, Nothing Islamic about Our Bosnia War. That’s Why there are Almost No Catholics Left. (And Why “Moderate” Mufti Ceric May Join Brotherhood?)Posted by Julia Gorin
“It is no coincidence that since the mid-1990s a distressing number of the most wanted terrorists around the globe turned out to have cut their teeth in the Bosnian crucible.”
[Two] out of the 19 hijackers on the 9/11 airplanes are veterans of the Bosnian Jihad and served as soldiers in the Bosnian Muslim army.
“Disillusioned and embittered by the gross shortcomings of our ‘best and brightest’ and nearly everything they said about Bosnia, I swore to tell the real story someday, when I was free to do so…
“I don’t think it’s coincidental that during the 1992-95 war, the SDA-run government in Sarajevo hired some big-name PR firms in Washington DC, which proved successful at selling the pro-Sarajevo view of the conflict to the U.S. public, particularly via CNN.
Years later, long after 9/11 had changed the world and the war in Bosnia was all but forgotten, I found myself at a drinks reception at a London think tank. I fell into conversation with a war crimes lawyer who worked at the International Criminal Tribunal for former Yugoslavia in the Hague. I related this story to him [of being held by al Qaeda in Bosnia].
“When was this?” he asked. “In November 1993,” I said.
His eyes widened. “Do you have any idea how much trouble you were in?” he said.
“It was a few months after the first attack on the World Trade Centre in New York which killed six people,” he added.
“Some of those guys were already on the run.
“No wonder they didn’t like your cameras around.”
And now let’s check in on how our multi-ethnic Bosnia is doing:
But, but the Muslims in the Balkans are all supposed to be “moderates” who love America and abhor Islamic supremacism! “Report: ‘Christians Flee Bosnia Amid Discrimination, Islamization,’” by Stefan J. Bos for BosNewsLife, October 12 (thanks to Lachlan):
SARAJEVO, BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA (BosNewsLife)– Christians are massively leaving post-war Bosnia-Herzegovina amid mounting discrimination and Islamization, according to a new report released Friday, October 12.
“Many believers leave the country since war raged 20 years ago,” said Netherlands-based advocacy and aid group Kerk in Nood, or ‘Church in Need’, in the report obtained by BosNewsLife.
There are just 440,000 Catholics left in the Balkan nation, half the prewar figure, the group said.
The report came on the heels of talks between the cardinal of Sarajevo, Vinko Puljic,and European Council President Herman van Rompuy about difficulties faced by Bosnia’s Christians.
Puljic reportedly complained that while dozens of mosques were build in the Bosnian capital Sarajevo, no building permissions were given for Christian churches.
“The cardinal already waits 13 years on permission to build just a small church,” Church in Need said. Authorities so far refused to return hundreds of nationalized church buildings, despite a ruling by the European Court of Human Rights to do so, according to Christian officials.
Additionally tens of thousands of people, many of them Catholic Croats, have been prevented from returning home following the war, Church in Need said. These obstacles violate the Dayton peace accords that ended the 1992-1995 Bosnian War, which split the nation between a Serb republic and a Muslim-Croat federation.
“Time is running out as there is a worrisome rise in radicalism,” Puljic said, who added that the people of Bosnia-Herzegovina were “persecuted for centuries” after European powers “failed to support them in their struggle against the Ottoman Empire.”…
As Jim Jatras commented, “Article about Catholic Croats’ difficulties in increasingly Islamized ‘Federation of BiH’?…What did they think was going to happen when they allied with the Muslims?”
THE ITEM GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THIS ONE, FROM JUST LAST MONTH:
Bosnia’s Catholic leaders say real dialogue impeded by injustices (By Jonathan Luxmoore, Catholic News Service, Sept. 19)
WARSAW, Poland — Catholic leaders in Bosnia-Herzegovina said real ethnic and religious dialogue is not occurring and not all religions have equal rights.
“Real dialogue” is being impeded by “legalized war crimes and injustices,” as well as by failure to implement the peace accord that ended the country’s 1992-95 war, said Msgr. Ivo Tomasevic, secretary-general of Bosnian bishops’ conference.
Tomasevic welcomed a September interfaith peace appeal, issued in Sarajevo after an international peace meeting sponsored by the Rome-based Sant’Egidio Community….
However, in an interview Wednesday with Catholic News Service, he said the country still lacks a firm foundation for religious and ethnic coexistence.
“…our Catholic population has almost halved and the Catholic presence in Sarajevo is dwindling year by year.”
Earlier, the president of the Bosnian bishops’ conference told the Croatian daily Vecernji List that he had questioned claims at the meeting that his country offered an example of religious and ethnic reconciliation.
“In no other European country has the plight of Catholics been as dramatic as here — at least half have left, and those who remain have problems finding a roof over their heads, food, jobs and conditions for life,” Bosnian Bishop Franjo Komarica of Banja Luka said in the interview, published Sunday.
“I pointed this out many times during the meeting and was warned participants knew nothing about these things,” he added. “I accepted this, although I don’t know whether people are uninformed, or rather uninterested.”
Bosnian newspapers said Bosnia’s Grand Mufti Mustafa Ceric had rejected complaints by Catholic and Orthodox leaders at the meeting that growing Muslim domination had left Christians with no future in Sarajevo.
WELL, the retiring Grand Mufti of Bosnia doesn’t see a problem, so there must not be a problem. Perhaps that’s why he may be in the running for a leading position with the Muslim Brotherhood. So far, this is the only report, via Google Translate: “Ceric, Head of the Muslim Brotherhood?”
The outgoing head of the Islamic Community, Mustafa Ceric, the most serious candidate to succeed Yusuf Qaradawi, one of the leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood…
“Ceric is no different from other extremist Muslim Brotherhood officials, radical views but hides, presenting ambiguous talk”, according to an analysis [by] Bera Millard, a former USAID Coordinator for Sudan and the author of several books that examine issues of contemporary terrorism.
Ber states that Kardavi in later years, and that the leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood actively looking for his successor, and Ceric, the door is wide open, because after 19 years he went from the head of the Islamic Community in Bosnia and the Muslim Brotherhood for decades has strong ties, according to “The Voice of Serbian”.
The analysis, published by the Institute for Economic Affairs, said that Ceric associated with the Muslim Brotherhood almost as much as Kardavi, and to participate in the work of the British organization “Radical Middle Way”, which brings together scholars and theologians associated with the Brotherhood.
“Ceric messages in English are peaceful and full of tolerance, while sermons dedicated [to] Muslims and Arabs, hateful. Within our own country Ceric promotes anything but peace. It calls Muslims to hate “ungodly” who publicly and directly threatened violence. His speeches exacerbate tensions and reduce any possibility of reconciliation. Ceric [threatens] non-governmental organizations in Bosnia and Herzegovina for alleged Islamophobia, according to the analysis.
Baer adds that Ceric played an important role in the war in the former Yugoslavia, whose collapse the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, ayatollahs in Iran, the Islamists in Sudan, the royal family of Saudi Arabia and mujaheddin wanted to use for the creation of an Islamic state in the Balkans.
Ceric in 1987…served as imam at the [Islamic] Center of Zagreb, and among his friends [was] a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, al-Fatih Hasanein, who is originally from Sudan [and] educated in Yugoslavia. Al-Hasanein is co-founder of the Third World [Relief Agency], fake charities that [helped in] arming the mujahideen in the Balkans, said Baer.
He adds that Ceric, and shortly after that time [wartime president Alija] Izetbegovic directly participated in the National Arab-Islamic Conference founded in Sudan, which is considered a terrorist organization by the international TA.
“In addition, there were members [of] CIRKL, an organization that served to finance terrorist activities. […]
Yes, this is the leader of those “non-religious-secular-European-pork-eating-alcohol-consuming-Muslims” that we helped so they wouldn’t go in the direction that Muslims go in. Yes, this is the guy who gets invited to all those interfaith dialogues, including at synagogues in Birmingham. Since Ceric has been proclaimed a “moderate” Muslim, one supposes it’s the moderates who will lead the vanguard of Jihad. According to Serbianna.com proprietor Mickey Bozinovich, who emailed me the Ceric-Brotherhood item, “Saudis and Kuwaities have been opening Ceric’s doors for a long time, schooling him, and placing him at Harvard and other schools in the US so as to appear like a ‘moderate’ and establish a network of friendly media and political figures who need an example of a moderate Muslim in order to shield themselves from accusations of Islamophobia.”
Earlier this year, Mickey informed me that Ceric is also friends with the Saudi Sheik Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah — who in April decreed that all churches be destroyed. “The Bosnian Ceric and the Saudi Abdul are fixtures at some dialogue of cultures where Muslims want to foist their rule over Jews and Christians,” Mickey wrote. “This particular Saudi Abdul is powerful because lots of Muslims listen to him….Keep in mind, Saudis have the largest mosques in Bosnia, most of the money funding their Imam and lots of sway.”
Now, the name Hasanein (or Hassanein) coming up in a Ceric context recalls this revealing 2008 writing by a Bosnian-Muslim apologist:
COMMENTARY DETAILS ROLE OF NGO IN SPREADING WAHHABI ISLAM IN BOSNIA
BBC Monitoring International Reports - January 10, 2008
Text of commentary by Adi Halvo: “I witnessed establishment and work of TWRA organization,” published by Bosnian Serb privately-owned centrist newspaper Nezavisne Novine, on 5 January
The statement by the Hague tribunal’s chief prosecutor, Carla Del Ponte, to the German Der Spiegel of 18 October 2007, that the tribunal could prove that the president of the B-H Presidency, Alija Izetbegovic, was paying mojahedin to come to Bosnia-Hercegovina, is really dangerous for the position of the Bosnian Muslims amid the current anti-Islamic paranoia.
The closest relatives of the wartime president of the B-H Presidency requested that Carla Del Ponte deny this statement publicly, which she did by saying that Alija Izetbegovic did not pay the mojahedin, but the TWRA [Third World Relief Agency]…
As someone who witnessed what happened in Vienna, where I have lived since 1991, and in Zagreb, where I owned a company and an apartment in which I accommodated family members, refugees from Sarajevo, I can testify the following:
Elfatih Ali Hassanein, a close friend of Alija Izetbegovic’s and a former student in Belgrade, founded the TWRA “humanitarian organization” in Vienna on 12 February 1987. However, during the war, the TWRA’s main activities were carried out at this organization’s address in Zagreb, on Mandalicina Street, where Elfatih Ali Hassanein, Hasan Cengic [former B-H defence minister who was involved in arming the B-H Army] and Mustafa Ceric [then imam in Zagreb, currently reis ul ulema of the B-H Islamic Community] had their offices, and where Alija Izetbegovic stayed from time to time.
At the same time, the TWRA managed a news agency in Zagreb; this agency was broadcasting reports, video recordings, and television reports every day, thus contributing to spreading the truth [sic] in the Islamic world about the suffering and the persecution of the Bosnian Muslims. The TWRA was also publishing the Al Sahid monthly magazine in Arabic. This magazine, among other things, glorified the Bosniaks with similar views to those of Elfatih Ali Hassanein, that is, Alija Izetbegovic, Mustafa Ceric, and Hasan Cengic, as the most prominent leaders of jihad in Bosnia. The best illustration of the kind of friendly-ideological relationship that existed between the TWRA’s founder and chairman and Alija Izetbegovic is the statement by Elfatih’s brother, Sukarno Ali Hassanein, to the Sabrana Bosnia newspaper of 20 September 1995: “…Elfatih Ali Hassanein, PhD, has been an old friend of Mr Alija Izetbegovic’s since 1964. He is now an adviser to His Excellency Izetbegovic.”
…[I]t is another question how much…harm [TWRA] inflicted on Bosnia-Hercegovina (pronounced Islamism at the expense of the Bosniak identity, the spreading of the ideology of the Wahhabi Islam, the mobilization of the mercenary mojahedin in the Islamic countries.) One thing is certain: the Muslim, Bosniak, and the Bosnian interests, which are not necessarily always identical, got mixed up in this process, and religion was misused for political purposes during the war and in the post-war period.
…[T]he decisions were made in the TWRA organization in 1993 about a putsch within the Islamic Community, about forming an Islamic army….Alija Izetbegovic was…the engine of the TWRA organization, so, he was legally in the position, by his signature, to authorize and enable Elfatih Ali Hassanein and Hasan Cengic to collect donations for years, and thereby make unimaginable wealth. As the supreme head of the Army, he was also in a position to order General Rasim Delic to integrate the mojahedin unit into the B-H Army. Owing to Izetbegovic’s policy and tolerating the invasion by the Islamic ideologists and “benefactors” of the territory controlled by the Bosniaks, he contributed to the formation of dozens of Islamic “humanitarian organizations” with suspicious intentions (it has been proved that some of them were linked with Al-Qa’idah.)
What remains to be seen is whether the Bosniaks, by acting through the political parties and by electing good, European-oriented politicians in the next election, will solve their problems….The future will show if the Bosniak people…are capable of identifying the enemy within. This enemy is a corrupt, war-profiteering group, consisting of the disguised mentors of Islamic Wahhabism, which has been imposed on the Bosniaks by the ideologist[s] of the TWRA organization.
Reports about Bosnia’s dwindling Catholic population, meanwhile, were already coming out in 2006 and earlier. I blogged in 2010 on this painfully predictable result of Western interloping:
Bosnia’s Catholics nearly all gone (The Catholic Leader, July, 2009)
The Muslim population is growing in Bosnia to such an extent that Sarajevo is a “practically Muslim city”, Cardinal Franc Rodé said.
He said there were only 17,000 Catholics in Sarajevo, a city of 600,000.
Meanwhile, more than 100 mosques have been built in recent years, the prelate said.
“There is, in fact, the will to Islamise the region of Sarajevo.” […]
Bosnia: Muslims dominate capital, claims Croatian MP (AKI, Aug. 6, 2008)
The Bosnian capital of Sarajevo, once a symbol of ethnic diversity, has become an entirely Muslim city, a Croat deputy in the Bosnian Parliament, Branko Zrno, said on Wednesday.
“Sarajevo definitely isn’t a multi-ethnic city, but the city of one group, the Bosniacs (Muslims), ” Zrno told local media.
He pointed out that Serbs and Croats in Sarajevo have no institutional protection, and continue to leave the capital.
Zrno echoed allegations from Bosnian Serb leaders, including Serb entity Prime Minister Milorad Dodik, that non-Muslims in Sarajevo suffered discrimination and were denied their rights. [Except when Dodik says it, it’s called “Serb propaganda” aimed at sowing divisions and pandering to “nationalists.”]
Zrno said that the Croatian presence in the city had been halved and that neither Croats nor Serbs held any important posts in local government.
Serbs claim that in the city of 400,000 only 7,000 Serbs have remained, compared to 160,000 before the 1992-1995 civil war.
The Serb claims have been supported by the Muslim President of the Bosnian Helsinki committee for human rights, Srdjan Dizdarevic, who said in a recent interview that Sarajevo had become a “monoethnic” city.
“Over 90 percent of Sarajevo inhabitants belong to only one group, the Bosniacs,” Dizdarevic told weekly Fokus.
“Ethnic cleansing in this city has, unfortunately, been successfully completed. If the will exists to reconstruct Bosnia on multiethnic principles, one should start with Sarajevo,” he concluded.
But as ethnic tensions deepened, the Muslim chairman of a three-man rotating state presidency, Haris Silajdzic, on Wednesday launched a fresh attack on the Serb entity.
Silajdzic repeated earlier claims that the Serb entity is a “symbol of genocide”…Bosnia’s majority Muslim leaders have continued to call the Serb entity a “genocidal creature” that should be abolished - a move strongly opposed by Serbs.
“Catholics Continue to Flee Bosnia a Decade After War Ended” (Universe Catholic weekly newspaper, Nov. 19, 2006)
Hopes have been dashed of an end to the exodus of Catholics from Bosnia-Herzegovina after the collapse of talks to amend the country’s post-war constitution.
That was the bleak picture painted by the country’s Franciscan provincial, Fr Mijo Dzolan… “Catholics are still discriminated against by the constitution of Dayton [the Balkans peace agreement reached in 1995].”
“Catholics do not have a good political or cultural frame to live in. They feel helpless. They have no confidence there will be an improvement and psychologically now they have no wish to participate in any improvement.”
Nor were refugees who fled their Bosnian homes during the conflict returning, added Fr Dzolan. “The reasons to leave were simple — fear and danger…”
There was also this in April, 2008: Bosnia: Catholic Church targeted for terror — with implications for Western Europe by World Evangelical Alliance Religious Liberty Commission
Closing with a good, and rather all-encompassing, comment posted by Ruslan Tokhchukov, “EnragedSince1999,” triggered by the fleeing-Catholics item:
…As for the Nazi Croats, they worked glove-in-hand with the Muslims, US and NATO in the crucifiction of Serbia. Serves them right.
Contrary to the lies of our repugnant US, English, Swedish and other Western media, the Bosnian war was started by the Bosnian Muslims, not the Serbs. As early as January 1992, the Bosnian Serb leaders met with the Islamist Bosnian leader Izetbegovich in Lisbon and agreed to Bosnian independence on the condition they will have an autonomy within it. They just wanted control over their destiny. Having suffered for 500 years under the heel of the Muslims, they were loath to go back under the heel. Izetbegovich “agreed”, in keeping with the Muslim taqiyya deception practices, and then, 1 day later, backed out of this agreement. The Serbs warned that if Bosnia secedes from Yugoslavia without giving them cantonal self-rule, they will secede from Bosnia. The Muslims and Croats reacted with contempt.
Meeting in Graz, Austria, they decided to ride roughshod over the Serbs, calling a referendum on secession, which they were certain to win, because together they outnumbered the Serbs in Bosnia. In another desperate protest, the Serbs boycotted the referendum, but the Muslims and Croats pushed ahead with it anyway, on Saturday, Feb. 29 and Sunday Mar. 1, 1992. On Sunday, a Bosnian Muslim sniper shot at a Serb wedding in Downtown Sarajevo and murdered Nikola Gardovic, the father of the groom. This had greatly disturbed the Serb community. And STILL the Serbs did not attack! So the Muslims and Croats decided to push the knife deeper. On March 26, 1992, Bosnian Muslim jihadis had massacred 11 Serb civilians in the Serb village Sijekovac outside Bosanski Brod, and the war was on, started by the Bosnian Muslims.
When our Western media vermin arrived in Bosanski Brod, they found there hordes of Islamic jihadis, foreign and domestic, with “Allahu Akbar” stiched to their arm flashes, vowing to conquer all of Serbia for Islam. Nazi Croats crossed the bridge from the Croat side of the Sava river and joined them, Sieg-Heiling and Heil-Hitlering. Suddenly, it was back to 1942! They were back to their Nazi alliance! Only this time, instead of Nazi SS, they were backed by the NATO and the US. Immediatelly, they had hearded thousands of Serb civilians into a rape-torture-murder camp in Celebici whose horrors exceded those of Auschwitz. Fathers forced to have sex with their daughters, and brothers with one another, under the threat of horrible torture, then horribly tortured and murdered anyway.
In Srebrenica, more than 3 years before the so-called “massacre of Bosnian men and boys” by the Serbs, an all-out torture-massacre of all Serb civilians was carried out by the Bosnian Muslims. Srebrenica officially was a “UN-designated safe haven” for civilians, where no combatants were allowed. And yet, NATO, the US and UN had maliciously allowed the deployment of the 28th division (DIVISION!) of the Bosnian Muslim army there, commanded by Gen. Naser Oric.
Using the UN “peacekeepers” as willing “human shields”, the Muslims attacked from behind their backs and destroyed ALL Serb villages around Srebrenica, more than 50 of them! They torture-murdered thousands of Serb men, women and children. In Feb. 1994, still more than a year before the massacre, Oric boasted about his exploits to the Christian Science Monitor reporter John Pomphret, playing HVS videotapes for him, showing bloody piles of mutilated bodies of murdered Serb civilians. Who had committed those atrocities? Oric and his 28th division, and also “mujaheddin” volunteers, including teenage cutthroats. It is they [whom] our abominable media still refer to as “Muslim men and boys” “massacred” by “the Serbs”.
And FROM THE START of the war, our media Goebbelses were lying about “200,000″ Muslims “murdered” by “the Sebs”. Sometimes, the figure would rise to “250,000″, then inexplicably drop down to 200,000 again. Now, even some of the media liars privately concede that the “200,000″ figure was “made up at a press-conference”….Indeed, out of the “8,000 Muslim men and boys” supposedly killed in Srebrenica, 3,000 have been already discovered alive and well in Srebrenica, registered on voter rolls, as reported by Mary [Mostert] in her blog “[Banner] of Freedom”. Our democratically elected governments of the US, England and other Western countries, and our so-called “free” Western media lied just about everything on the Bosnian war. Google “I ACCUSE;Professor Rajko Dolecek” that documents hundreds of those lies. This publication was never challenged, and is unchallengeable, because the author provides the names of our well-known “news-stars”, the dates, and the names of the publications or TV broadcasts, with exact quotes. And those are only a small part of lies.
It got even worse during the Kosovo war, when our media and government allegations of “Serb atrocities in Kosovo” turned out to be 100% lies…The only thing the Serbs were guilty of was that they tried to defend themselves and their families in their own country from the rabidly racist, sadistic, genocidal Kosovar Albanian KLA terrorists, after suffering the totally one-sided murderous terror campaign on them for over a decade.
And for that, our United States of America, England and other Western democracies bombed and destroyed Serbia, murdering Serb Christians, burning them and their children alive. They forced the Serb military and law enforcement out of Kosovo, and then let the KLA loose on the defenseless Serb citizens left without police protection. Kidnapping, rape, torture, mutilation, murder. Horrid destruction of almost the entire Serb community. Looting and destruction of 150 of the holiest ancient Serb Christian churches and monasteries, 100 of them on UNESCO World Heritage List! Mass butchery of captive young Serb men and women for organs, as acknowledged even by the anti-Serb UN procesutor Carla del Ponte in her memoires “The Hunt”. Sex slavery, including that of underage girls on a scale unheard since the time of the Ottoman Turkish conquest.
All that evil toward the Serb people, NOT ONE of whom had ever spilled one drop of blood of even one American, or Englishman in their entire history. Who had never done ANTYTHING to the United States or England except being their loyal allies in both world wars, and who had suffered horribly in both wars for their loyalty. They did not even fight back! Their only response to the American and English abusers were bitter words: “Otolye slezy” (”Our tears will rain on you”).
Indeed, this kind of pure evil does not go unpunished. And when I woke up to September 11, 2001, I knew: those are the hot tears of grieving Serbs raigning down on America.
Too bad, it was not Bill Clinton who was killed, or Hillary Clinton, or Al Gore, or Madeline Albright, or Tony Blair, or Jamie Shea, or George Robertson, or David Wiglby, or Robin Cook, or Gen. Wesley Clark, or Gen. Michael Short, or Morton Abramowitz, or William Kristol, or Bob Dole, or Joseph Lieberman, or John McCain, but nearly 3,000 of our regular American folks who, out of ignorance or apathy, let those criminals do evil in their name.
And who were the main actors in the 9/11 attacks? Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, the mastermind of 9/11. He was also one of those jihad volunteers the US and NATO aided and abetted in murdering Serb Christians in Bosnia.
9/11 hijackers Nawaf al-Khazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar, who were aided by the US in jihad both in Bosnia AND Afghanistan!
Bin Laden’s al-Qaida, who, with the US aid, had a “big brotherly reunion” in Bosnia, getting back together after their US-backed jihad in Afghanistan. In Bosnia, they regrouped, reorganized, and got all fired-up for the Global Jihad. The fire our United States of America had set to the Balkans flared up right into her own face.